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Forbidden.News's avatar

Wow! I am getting historically dogpiled, today! LOL

The motivations for this post were because it seemed relevant to latest release of JFK Assassination files and to several posts I saw yesterday and also, because I thought I may have come across over the past week with the appearance of trying to break a lot of Canadian hearts, so I wanted to show that I was willing shatter American - and even my own personal - illusions, as well.

What I got was shattered by erstwhile fans, in a feeding frenzy to rip me apart.

Oh, well. Just another day on the interwebz.

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MARIA's avatar

YES! AND I SEE THINGS RAMPING UP EVEN MORE.

MORE DEMON RATS GOING BALLISTIC.

STAY FOCUSED AND STAY CALM GOD IS WITH YOU

AND SO AM I. GOD BLESS YOU.

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Tirion's avatar

We love you, Alexandra!

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barnacles's avatar

It happens. We all need a different perspective. A different thought or assumption to guide us too the obvious truth. However it may be.

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deneseB's avatar

Keep up the good work! You're the only social media I bother with; I love your posts. ;~)

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Erin J. Morgart's avatar

How would you feel if you knew that your husband, El Presidente, King of Camelot, etc., was having an affair with Marilyn Monroe (amongst others) and was just a showpiece, a Trophy Wife for USA, Inc.? A woman whose IQ was MUCH higher than JFK’s AND whose cultured life made her the perfect asset? Yet, behind the scenes, said wife was bullied, ignored and neglected by King Husband. How would YOU feel? I personally would have been mentally degraded enough to welcome the chance of revenge. That’s just me.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

Her father was a notorious womanizer, so that is all that she ever knew.

I was thinking along the lines of something much worse, like Trudeau- and Macron-level Satanism.

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the LastManStanding's avatar

lol, I did a story on this back in 2018, called "Jackie Did It!" Had a lot of fun with it too... all about "Derringers," Onassis and the hidden judaic elements in Jackie's closet. That was the pre-corona era, when I'd realized that all readers really wanted was to be entertained - even in the 'last days of Pompeii' phase that time represented. It's still true! Never take your 'readers' too seriously.... because that's exactly what's true in reverse!

And in regards to Erin's comment, as well as yours, when I was researching my deconstruction of the "Bobby Jr" myth, I found this book - "ASK NOT - The Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed" by Maureen Callahan to be extremely enlightening.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

I was friends with RFK Jr's little brother Max (Matthew) when he was a senior at Moses Brown boarding school and I was a Freshman at Brown and Max imparted to me the trauma and the darkness and self-destructiveness of the Kennedy Clan, who were being held together by Teddy, who was a bit of a profligate.

During that year, I was also very friendly with JFK Jr, who was a Senior and we went to all the same parties and we danced together every week and he invited me to his dinner parties at his off-campus apartment. We never dated (we just made-out once). He had previously dated my older stepsister, who had already graduated.

I would see RFK Jr out at Odeon in the early '90s and he was definitely a "player" and he was very attractive but all we did was play eye games across the bustling restaurant a few times.

Many years later, I was neighbors with RFK Jr's little sister, Rory and we would split the cost of the snowplow, during some historic blizzards on Shelter Island. She seemed nice enough but the way she recently led the Clan in dragging her own brother (along with Caroline & Son) was incredibly disturbing, depressing and disappointing to me.

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the LastManStanding's avatar

When people try to reconcile the image with the reality of the Kennedy thing, they end up confused, depressed or [insert your chosen response here] but never accept the simple fact that the 'problem' began with the family patriarch "Joe" and his attempt to 'buy a stairway to heaven.'

In your case, knowing those downstream from "Jack" it may be even tougher to come out ahead. Seeing the good and bad in the same person would be a trip in itself. Clearly the 'womanizer' thing was in the genes. But peeking into the personal demons what would make those two boys who'd 'inherited the top rungs' of the new world's royalty totem - heroin addicts - in addition to abusers of the women who gave their lives over to them, is something that would require the 'supra-rational' talents of Poe's Parisian detective - Augustin Dupin!

"the Fall of the House of Kennedy" ain't too far off the mark, in fact, for anyone wishing to write the story. Poe was not just a visionary & savant, he peeked into the future and saw disturbing notice of what was to be. Is it too much of a stretch to suppose he saw both 'Jack' & 'Jackie?'

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Forbidden.News's avatar

I hadn't fallen to that point until now. Their Americana was absolutely solid, when I was socializing with them between the 1970-2000s.

It's since dropped off a cliff. CHYNA.

I could just die, it's so terrible. It's the f**ing end. It's that bad.

I hope MAGA can overcome this evil.

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Suzirhae's avatar

I just borrowed this in order to make a point; JFK Files: The Soviet Union warned the United States about the upcoming JFK assassination.

Russia🇷🇺 also tried to warn the US🇺🇸 about the coming 9/11 attacks via its intelligence agencies.

Russia is not the enemy of the US, the deep state is.

I am not attacking anyone other than the government itself. Cheers!

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Kenneth J Hinnenkamp's avatar

Doubtful. Women usually resort to poison. A public assassination would be very uncharacteristic of a female assassin. If you believe this version, you will believe anything as you lack the ability to think critically.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

It's not about believing anything.

I was reminded of this video that I first saw 16 years ago when I saw recent posts by Tore and The Rubber Duck™.

I'm permabanned on X so I can't see a lot but somebody sent me this Threaderapp compilation of the related tweets:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1902712302291300405.html#google_vignette

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Richard C. Cook's avatar

Didn't happen. We know who shot JFK. Almost as crazy is the idea that he was shot by his chauffeur. See my book, "Our Country Then and Now."

We also know that JFK, Jr., on his own path to the presidency, was taken out.

https://www.amazon.com/Our-Country-Then-Richard-Cook/dp/1949762858

Another book to note is "Mary's Mosaic." Take a look there at the role of the Washington Post if you are poking around in the darkness.

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Margaret Treis's avatar

The chauffeur.....another complete bullshit story.

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Wendy's avatar

Any truth to the rumors, JFK JR is still alive? Just asking.

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AmericanMutt's avatar

No. He is dead.

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Margaret Treis's avatar

As a door nail.

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Wendy's avatar

Too bad

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Suzirhae's avatar

A lot of the Q stuff is a CIA psyop, to divert attention away from the CIA and LBG. Motive for the attack was probably the gold in Fort Knox and it funded the Stargate program, AI, Life Log/Facebook and several Color revolutions around the world. Follow the money.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

Is/was Q CIA or DIA or NSA? I have no idea.

I didn't follow it very closely but the posts kept mentioning my late friend, John Perry Barlow.

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Beth M's avatar

Actually the Q posts clearly lay out that the CIA is our enemy. If it was run by the CIA why would they call themselves Clowns In America and point to evidence of all their evil doings around the world? Seems kind of counter productive.

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Suzirhae's avatar

Any good psyop includes some truth with the fiction. That’s what makes it interesting.

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Stephanie Pappas's avatar

not sure what to believe, and not saying that this is the case- just one possible answer to your question--the CIA might do that as part of a limited hangout. they reveal just some of what you are doing, as if coming clean, when in fact they're only showing ( or admitting to ) 10% of the real , complete story...

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Webe1's avatar

I recall listening to an interview with the grandson of one of LBJ’s friends and a taped conversation claiming an order came directly from LBJ to assassinate Kennedy.

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Mary H.'s avatar

Here is the link : https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1879312259349930294

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Suzirhae's avatar

Now we are getting somewhere! I consider this, “Boots on the ground”!! Thank you for sharing! Hugs!!

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Farleyboy's avatar

The Q nonsense is a complete psyop and when I hear it being brought up again, I run in the other direction.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

I'm not and was never an avid Q follower but I was friends with someone who was repeatedly mentioned in Q posts and who died early on in the course of the posts: https://qalerts.app/?q=john+perry+barlow

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Stephanie Pappas's avatar

the first arrest will shock the world

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Suzirhae's avatar

Q is a character in James Bond series created by a British Secret Service agent, Ian Fleming. Can you see the irony here?

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AmericanMutt's avatar

Q was a successful psyop.

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Norman Gilmore's avatar

Yes Just more CIA diversion BS.

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Suzirhae's avatar

LBJ as in Lyndon Johnson. Sorry for the typos. I need more coffee.

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Robert Welch's avatar

Jay Weidner put out a documentary, JFK X : Solving the Crime of the Century, in which he puts forth the premise that JFK had it look as if he was killed, in order to escape certain death from the mob. I became convinced of this after watching the documentary. It is very clear to me that Jackie was the person who pulled on the string that set off the Hollywood-type charge that made it seem as if JFK had been shot. In the Zapruder film one can see her come over to him, very closely and reach down just before he's shot. At that time, the fake charges could only be operated manually. Jackie is non-reactive when Kennedy's head explodes in blood - because she knew it was coming by her actions- and then she goes back to collect a part of the charge at the rear of the car in order to hide the evidence. The documentary is well worth seeing. I believe it costs around $10 to get access.

We truly live in a world that is very strange. I've come to the conclusion that I never really "know" anything. Regarding JFK, I currently assume/believe the above.....

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Gypsy Queen's avatar

This could be plausible.

I’ve seen very long Substack on how Hitler did the same. That he actually escaped to Argentina and live the rest of his life in South America. Backed up with a lot of witnesses.

No one is too big to “disappear “and live out their lives somewhere remote.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

In Argentina, it's well known that Hitler moved to there and that he owned this house in the Andes: https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+Inalco+House/@-40.7145515,-71.7106415,1115m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m10!1m2!2m1!1sinalco,+argentina!3m6!1s0x9610c6e4e3e9b3f3:0xca8abb17a46e7b49!8m2!3d-40.7145523!4d-71.7010179!15sChFpbmFsY28sIGFyZ2VudGluYZIBE2hpc3RvcmljYWxfbGFuZG1hcmvgAQA!16s%2Fg%2F11cjj7qw9d?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMxOS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

I know a French-Brazilian filmmaker who dug deep into this and found a tax assessor in city of Salto in northeastern Argentina who was in possession of Mengele's suitcase, which was full of thousands of IDs and documents of the ~14,000 Nazis who escaped to Argentina and their new identities. He wanted money for it.

Josef Mengele also lived near Hitler in Bariloche but died unexpectedly in 1979 while visiting friends in Brazil and the suitcase ended up with this tax assessor guy in Salto, who had helped the Nazis cover up their identities and activities.

Mengele had a stroke while swimming in a then-remote beach where my late grandmother had an unelectrified house in Bertioga (there are 20-story buildings there now).

We used to go there most weekends and there was one time when there was dead white guy on the beach, covered with a white sheet with his feet sticking out and surrounded by 20 cops.

Back then, it was still in the middle of the jungle and you never saw cops, let alone 20! I was a kid and I'd never seen a dead body before and it freaked me out, so I gave him the nickname "Gray Toes". My stepdad and I joked about "Gray Toes" for the rest of the weekend.

I can't say for certain that it was Mengele's body on the beach but the time frame matches.

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Tirion's avatar

Yes, Hitler's retirement home at San Carlos de Bariloche in The Andes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMi1Y88xsho&list=WL&index=22&t=3s

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Gypsy Queen's avatar

Just wow!!!!!

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Devi's avatar

I just spent a good part of the morning listening to all that. I knew bits and pieces of all of it and had read what ToreSays had written about it all probably in January 2023. It was unsettling listening to the conversation(s) with Jackie and LBJ after assassination of JFK. Another series I found revelatory was “The Men who Killed Kennedy.” It is a ten part, I believe, on YouTube. The chapter on Judyth Vary Baker was great. I know her story, read her first book and listen in when she is a guest on whoever’s podcast..

I still hold onto the belief that Jr is alive. 😔

I still am unable to load forbiddenknowledgetv.net on any of my browsers. Can I find the film on the pyramids from your recent substack , Alexandra, on Alex’s show?

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Forbidden.News's avatar

I’ve just responded to 3 emailed complaints, all 3 from iOS users (iPhone & iPad). I guess this problem is not only in the emails but on this website (and/or the Substack app), as well, if you’re unable to clickthrough the links from the article from the Substack web- and mobile sites.

If you can’t clickthrough these URLs below and are still blocked from chat, then you’ll have to copy and paste these URLs into a new browser window, but please use Chrome or Firefox as Mac’s Safari browser appears to be one of the problems, too:

Video #1: Alex Jones interview:

https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/the-greatest-archeological-discovery-in-history/

Video #2: Short intro video

https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/scientists-claim-massive-underground-straucrures-beneath-giza-pyramids/

If even pasting the URLs into a non-Safari browser won’t work, then try restarting your device, as this may also be a problem with cached files. I had to switch hosting servers 3-4 weeks ago and your device may still be trying to connect to my old IP. Restarting and clearing your cache may be the solution.

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Devi's avatar

I replied to this and went to post it and it disappeared. I have been going through a really rough patch lately. I suffered a huge personal loss recently. Then on this past Monday my Facebook/ Private Message account was hacked. 16 years of activity and I have other pages and am admin to one and co-admin to two groups. Meta suspended my account with little explanation. Friends have made complaints because it is identity theft, impersonation, fraudulent activity. These fraudsters appear to be in Uganda, using my profile picture and the seven purported “friends” of this faux Deborah Jennings apparently share hundreds of mutual friends with a couple of my real friends that clicked the their photos of the seven friends. These are mostly folks from the medical freedom/vaccine-choice community. I have no way to communicate with Meta and someone suggested in an internet query that I might have to get an attorney and get the police involved. Then a couple days later I realized my yahoo email account was seriously messed up. Went over to my aol account and sent a couple emails out and they went off and were in my sent folder and then disappeared hours later. Have not heard back from those people. Then I went over to my iCloud email account today and the same thing is happening. Things are really unhinged for me.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

I know how much it sucks. I had an account on Facebook for 16 years until Feb 2021 and it was the way I communicated with my huge extended family all over the world.

FB de-platformed me for posting a .jpg image of text with just the words, "A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth." It's been attributed to both Goebbels and Lenin but it's really just a truism.

Anyway, this was evidence that I was a "Nazi" – which their 16 years of data that they have on me knows full well that I am not, given that half my family and friends on there are Jews! This was during the vaxx roll-out and their AI knew they needed me outta there.

The same AI de-platformed me from TRUTHSocial when I wasn't even posting on there.

FB did me a favor when they de-platformed me. Over-exposure to Normies (Zombies) is unhealthy. Life is too short. It sounds horrible but it's pointless reasoning, it's pointless arguing. Detach with love.

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deneseB's avatar

Wow, what have you done Alexandra, to merit such censorship?😆

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Becomelects Ministry's avatar

You mean Salta, Argentina?

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Forbidden.News's avatar

Yes. The Argentinean tax assessor who retired in Salta ended up with Mengele's suitcase that was full of original Nazi IDs and their new Argentinean IDs and various contracts and tax assessments on their properties. Basically, these were the control files on most of the Nazis who had escaped to Argentina.

In 2016, my mother's childhood best friend became widowed and she quickly remarried a Franco-Brazilian TV producer-Director (they were both in their 80s) and we were out at lunch and he told me about how he had spent a lot of time and energy into developing what he'd hoped would become a big Brazilian TV series based on all of this information.

In 2016, he gave me a summary of it in Portuguese and I translated it into English and posted about it, 9 years ago: https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/hitlers-escape-to-argentina-where-he-lived-in-until-1962/

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Becomelects Ministry's avatar

It seems some issues with the link.

Domingo Peron was commonly known as a friend of Nazis in Arg. Bariloche is also called the Little Swiss.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

There's no problem with the link. It is being blocked by software on your device or possibly by the operating system, itself, if it is iOS. It is AI-based censorship, so it's not across the board; it's personalized and it's not on every post nor to everybody, as with being de-platformed - which I am, from major social media.

I've received many complaints today and in the past month (and recent years) from iPhone/iPad (iOS) users and/or users of the Safari browser and other Mac apps, like MacMail, iCloud and the Brave browser.

Please do not use Safari as your browser, switch to Chrome or Firefox and also try restarting your device if you haven't in several days/weeks, as my website changed IP addresses 3-4 weeks ago and your device may still have cached files from before the switch. Clearing out your cached files or simply restarting your device will solve a cached files issue.

If none of this helps then maybe it's the Substack app.

I don't use my phone for anything but phone calls because I don't need any more BS in my life than I already have lol.

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Tirion's avatar

Yup!

"Hitler in Argentina: The Documented Truth of Hitler's Escape from Berlin," by Harry Cooper:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21446910-hitler-in-argentina

Residencia Inalco - Hitler's Hideout in the Andes?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMi1Y88xsho&list=WL&index=22&t=3s

Not only Hitler, but several senior NAZIs were allowed to fake their own deaths and escape to Argentina and elsewhere, including Bormann and Kammler.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

Around 14,000 Nazis went to Argentina but twice as many went to the US and almost as many, again went to Canada.

I may have seen Mengele's body after he drowned when I was a kid. He died on the beach in Bertioga where we went every weekend that year, where my grandmother had a house in the jungle (scroll above for more details about that and "Mengele's Suitcase").

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Tirion's avatar

🤯

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Ohio Deb's avatar

Tirion.. with the help of the US government.

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Tirion's avatar

With the knowledge/connivance of the US government, yes. Help? Maybe. I don't know.

With the help of Peron's Argentinian government certainly.

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Robert Welch's avatar

Seems possible also.

It could be that Jackie married Onassis in order to be able to go to Greece without it being " unusual ", so that she could be with JFK. Besides being puzzled at Jackie's scrambling around on the car trunk, I was also puzzled that she'd marry Onassis. Wasn't he quite a bit older ? But, it's not so puzzling if the above holds true.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

Tore, who is Greek says Onassis was part of the global shipping mafia and they made an arrangement where he would guarantee the safety of her and her children and she would give him a High Society boost.

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Forbidden.News's avatar

Yes, with the help of the United States CIA's Operation Paperclip.

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Allan Robichaud's avatar

Jackie did not kill her husband. Total bullshit story. It has also been said the agent in the front seat turned around and shot him. This has all the earmarks of a psyop stunt in my opinion, to distract from the mounting evidence of the real killers.

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Margaret Treis's avatar

Psyop maybe, but a lot of it's coming from people who just plain make up shit.

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AmericanMutt's avatar

5 shooters. 1 was 41, 2 C Fairplay, Mac, and another CIA. All coordinated by CIA. It's all out there you just have to do simple math. The JFK files and other evidence and listen to people like Roger Stone.

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Margaret Treis's avatar

They make a big deal of Roger saying Johnson did it, but he acknowledges all the known players.

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deneseB's avatar

The driver would have to have shot between Gov. Connally and his wife, where anyone could see a gun, which is about as dumb as thinking Jackie did it. ✌️

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E. Grogan's avatar

I don't believe Jackie killed her husband and here are my reasons why:

1) I don't trust Tore says. She was/is CIA. Enough said there. I DO believe CIA gave the orders to have him shot so it makes sense Tore would point to anyone but CIA to direct We the People away from any CIA suspicions.

2) I read an article many years ago, back in late 1990s that was extremely well done; IIRC it was written by Matt Taibi but I'm not 100% sure. It was about 25 pages long, gave numerous documents and references. It showed a photocopy of the order George H. W. Bush gave to have JFK killed. GHWB was in CIA in early 1960s but it wasn't public knowledge, they kept it hidden. He and his dad both helped to create CIA and GHWB was high up in CIA in early 60s. If you read the book "JFK's Last Stand" (a MUST read which is extremely well-documented with lots of photocopies of govt. documents) by Dr. Michael Salla, GHWB was directed by Majestic-12 to have JFK killed. Majestic-12 was protecting info about UFOs and JFK was a loose cannon who knew too much about the UFO's, the most highly protected topic there was. There are a number of whistleblowers who are of good reputation who talked about the aliens. Yes I know this might sound crazy, but much proof has been given. I've researched the UFO/alien topic for 45 yrs, was friends with Jacque Valle, interviewed son of Jesse Marcel of Roswell, New Mexico fame and have read extensively about this topic. Several presidents have wanted to do Disclosure but were prevented by deep state. Majestic-12 protects this info and has been working in the shadows. Yes, they are real. You can find documents here:

https://majesticdocuments.com/

3) Another source I do not trust is Roger Stone. He is part of Gen. Michael Flynn's inner circle and Flynn is a pedo and a satanist. He has been very close to Lt. Col. Michael Aquino, one of the worst satanists and pedos I've ever come across. Aquino took classes at Golden Gate University in San Francisco and his teacher was Aquino who later became his mentor. I've seen pictures of Flynn wearing a shirt with pedo symbols. It's important to understand that when Trump appoints someone to a position he is most likely highlighting that person as someone who is part of deep state. He is doing that so he can trap that person in crimes and to show the public who the deep state players are. I've watched Trump for 45 yrs, he works in very unusual but effective ways.

I'm glad you wrote this article, though, it's always wortwhile to read all points of view about a topic IMO. I've always thought JFK Jr. was a really sweet guy, too and I've watched many interviews of him throughout the years. I'm old enough to remember when his dad was killed in 1963. it was a very dark and sad time for America.

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crapshoot farmer's avatar

Interesting about Flynn...am familiar with Aquino and the disgusting nature of it all is very depressing.

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E. Grogan's avatar

Yes, I find it depressing as well. I feel like I need to take a shower after reading about Aquino.

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deneseB's avatar

You forgot the part when JFK threatened CIA Director Allen Dulles that he was going to dismantle the CIA, which added Dulles to the list of killers. :~|

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AmericanMutt's avatar

On 2. 41 intimately involved but JFK not killed because of UFOs. Many reasons but that's not it.

On 3. I'm saying horsecrap. Flynn is not a pedo that's total gaslight. Flynns a good guy. The bad guys get rich, the good guys get sued into oblivion or go to jail. Follow the money and lawsuits if you are not sure. All the CIA I've met are filthy rich. Somehow they always end up with a ton of money after incredible strokes of luck financially. It's not luck!

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Stephen's avatar

I don’t subscribe to this particular theory, but that doesn’t detract from the broader requirement to explore all possible explanations in the search for the truth, nor does it disprove it.

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Ann Delap's avatar

I was alarmed by what Caroline had to say about her cousin Bobby. There was also an incident regarding a dead bear cub placed in Central Park as a joke that would suggest RFK Jr. has a dark side. I actually voted for him in 2024 as he was still on the ballot in my state. I met him and had my picture taken with him at a CHD Conference. Just goes to show that none of these people are who we think they are. Sigh.

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Suzette's avatar

What does a dead bear cub mean?

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Tirion's avatar

"RFK Jr. admits to dumping a dead bear in Central Park, solving a decade-old mystery"

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/05/nx-s1-5063939/rfk-jr-central-park-bear-bicycle

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Forbidden.News's avatar

Pretty crazy but I do hope that NPR gets DOGEd out of existence.

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Tirion's avatar

🤣

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Forbidden.News's avatar

Bear is actually supposed to be delicious.

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Tirion's avatar

Is it lawful to hunt them?

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deneseB's avatar

It's actually quite greasy, but it depends on what they eat. 🤮

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Scott Gordon - FreeScientology's avatar

Wow. We are really getting hoaxed here. Someone has had AI draw in weapons in the hands of Governor Conally and Jackie Kennedy, doing things they never did.

Bill Cooper somehow had the original Zapruder film undoctored (except for scraping the emulsion off the film where the driver seems to be aiming a gun back at the President). Hard to see here, but at least one can see the added weapons did not exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj5ketckbjY

Jackie turned to make sure her husband was okay before the final shot (Bill Cooper says and I agree that it came from the driver), which blew out the back of his skull.

I still think that Jackie, in a state of shock, began crawling away in panic. Not sure yet. But everyone of us should be looking more deeply into this, and especially notice that this new footage features added weapons that were not there in the original footage.

Which means HOAX footage has emerged.

Please compare with the various, older Zapruder versions available in many places on the Internet.

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Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

wow... been outta the loop but whut STRIKES me here is her casual flirty tone an' her soundin' velly un-bereaved-widow-like an' also purdy space-cadetty (yup, like Monarch prize Marilyn).

What I find odd is on the link ya sent I happened ta notice the head of the Motion Picture Association Jack ('effin CIA) Valenti... I had no IDEAR of his work with LBJ...

https://discoverlbj.org/item/oh-valentij-19691018-2-78-70

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Valenti

48 pages of sumthin' likely worth a set of eyes just in case. I'm dealin' with my jab-addled recently bereaved mama & various caregivers & messes 'er I take a look-see myself...

Oral history transcript, Jack Valenti, interview 2 (II), 10/18/1969, by Joe B. Frantz (Item) The interviewer is Joe B. Frantz. Jack, I suppose we may as well be informal on this. Let's talk a little bit about that Texas trip which saw Jack Kennedy assassinated. Did Vice President Johnson ever discuss with you the reasons for making the trip....

I mean that's SPOOKS right in thar... I know most folks just wanna blame 100% mossad & be dun with it... (LBJ wuz havin' an affair with Matilda Krim but he himself wuz neither a joo nor a Rothschild fwiw tho' some insist goin' thru them hoops floats their boats)... heterodoxically I think there were multiple hands & 5 eyes (not just one) on this crime OR this cover up which makes BOTH Jay Widener's angle look plausible AN' make Jackie here make sense... IF it wuzza Hollyweird cover up an he "lived" (which makes Jack Valenti's role all the more ironic) then Jackie doin' her part/playin' her role makes poifect sense--also the lack've grief (b/c even if she hated him she had two of his kids...an' yup Caroline is kinda freaky now). No DOUBT that JohnJohn had no clue... that would'a put him in the crosshairs IF if wuz so... so he wuz left in the dark

My guess per what'cha said an' per "acteur-caterer banter" (Cleaver Co if ye know it Alexandra--cuz we acteurs all catered events fer "dough" an' "dished" after lol) is that JohnJohn wuz indeed a real sweetie just as ye say. (They said his pretty wife wuz kinda aloof but not unkind or "nassy" like some elite TriBeck-uns were--again, jus' repeatin'--an' sumtimes bein' "reserved" is misread as aloof... or even could'a been shy...you'd know best). Anywhoo... my understandin' is that GEORGE wuz ta OUT GWB Sr. (that's Bush not the GWBridge ha ha) as JJ was near-sure George dunnit an' golly there's a passle've evidence ta prove it... Mister CIA himself...

I'm glad ta see this stuff, nothin' too farfetched ta consider....

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Forbidden.News's avatar

If she didn't know you, Carolyn was very tough but she was as sweet as could be, once she got to know you. I spent quite a bit of time with Carolyn between 1993-1996. She dated my brother, who was a model with big contracts at Ralph Lauren and Calvin Klein at the time. My roommate was a fit model who worked at Calvin's studio in the schmata district for many years, which is how I met Carolyn.

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Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

sure 'nuff, that makes sense jibes with the impression passed along ta me--I've known some folks that really warm up in person but got their public defenses on--that must'a been purdy upsettin' fer ya AN' yer brother-the-model (how fun!) when she got killed...yipes. Some how I think we might've missed each other at Odeon at 3pm. I knew sum models (nobuddy famous tho!) an' they'd smoke an' pick at their frisee an' I'd help myself ta their frites! Those were the dayz, right? Knew a fit model with poifect size six feet (who has feet that tiny?) an' she nailed the sample sales at Barney's annually lol. The 9's were always a bust! I has some pals in fashion too, my friend Stephen worked a bit fer Anne Klein as a cutter an' (you'll laff) he told me he wuz asked ta hold her hoagie while she'd take bites & sketched! Mucho talented but apparently a slob ;-)--Anne I mean, not my friend. I also had a few friends that were "dressers too"... everyone had such STYLE! (miss that y'know)... Carolyn wuz stunnin'... today we gotz eyesores (an' a LOT less eye candy!) Used ta love watchin' those "all dressed up" but no lookin' like ho's, just nifty-chic.

So sad, the loss've both'a them... hard not ta believe in the Kennedy curse...

ps I meant the "how fun" referrin' to bein' a model! that wuz the time fer sure

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Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

lol my typo, I meant Odeon at 3 AM-not-PM (haha)...

(or Florent--an'nuther draw fer late nite fashion/schmatta folks ya might'a haunted--lord knows I did!--with the BEST "lardons"...) still nostalgic fer them funtastic 90's... but happy ta have left the nyshitty wreckage... ;-)

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Forbidden.News's avatar

I practically lived at Odeon, between '86 and '99.

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Daisy Moses Chief Crackpot's avatar

aha! ditto an' whatta SMALL whirled... I 'spected right then!

Likely we were in the same place, same time back in the day!

(best burgers thar too...omg)

(Also I think I'd mentioned too back a while... an'nuther oddball coinkydink is that I too--apart from NYU film-time/ that'd be mah M.A. from Tisch--an' both havin' made moosick viddeos (ergo slightly crossin' currents...) I also wuz deeply inta semiotics--Sin-e-ma related in my case an' I got my French dug-ree from Paris III (of the Sore-Bun lol) studyin' with the late great Christian Metz, Barthes' brilliant acolyte... all that Levi-Strauss, de Sausseur, Foucault, Lacan an' a list that you'll likely wreck-og-nize... Addin' too that it wuz fun an' completely useless (wull, they DID call it de-construction not fer nuttin', right?) in the long run but 'twas fun while it lasted, an odd little set of exercises, a sign've the times back then!

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Jan Dumas's avatar

Very interesting theory, I didn't see that coming. What's really weird, though, is that phone call.

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Tirion's avatar

Have you seen Jay Weidner's movie, "JFK X: Solving the Crime of the Century"?

Like Miles Mathis (https://mileswmathis.com/barindex2.pdf), Weidner makes the case that JFK faked his own death and that Jackie can be seen in the car sticking a squib on JFK's face. Weidner says it is to retrieve the used squib that Jackie crawls onto the trunk of the limo.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28518902/

Weidner also has a theory that JFK, Nixon, Carter, Reagan and Trump were/are all fronting for the ONI in their war with the CIA.

So maybe it's all just a mis-direction away from the CIA; but it's interesting nonetheless.

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Mark Urban's avatar

nazis did it

israel did it

lbj did it

the driver did it

jfk used a squib nobody died

mob did it

maybe we should write about who did not do it

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Synickel's avatar

One thing I believe is that anything is possible and probable in the world of elites. You don't get there unless you've given yourself over to the dark side. Families, marriages, friendships mean nothing if you're in the way of their agenda.

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